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Results: Why American gun laws are likely to get looser, not tighter, even after Las Vegas

Published on 10/19/2017
By: Harriet56
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Just days after the horrific Las Vegas shooting on October 1, that saw 58 people killed, and hundreds injured, another shooting took place that barely made the news. This act of domestic violence in a home, Casa Grande, Arizona, which saw four people die, did not even make the news outside of the state. And hundreds of shootings go locally reported and often not even reported, in the United States every year. More than 33,000 Americans were killed by guns in 2014 — more than 90 per day. In 2015, the Washington Post found, 23 children were shot every day. Almost two-thirds of the gun deaths were suicides, which tend to receive the least attention. And these guns were for the most part, legally owned guns that the owners would insist "are carefully stored without any chance anyone will accidentally find them". Do you own a legally obtained firearm of any kind?
Just days after the horrific Las Vegas shooting on October 1, that saw 58 people killed, and hundreds injured, another shooting took place that barely made the news. This act of domestic violence in a home, Casa Grande, Arizona, which saw four people die, did not even make the news outside of the state. And hundreds of shootings go locally reported and often not even reported, in the United States every year. More than 33,000 Americans were killed by guns in 2014 — more than 90 per day. In 2015, the Washington Post found, 23 children were shot every day. Almost two-thirds of the gun deaths were suicides, which tend to receive the least attention. And these guns were for the most part, legally owned guns that the owners would insist
No, and I am an American
48%
928 votes
No, and I am a Canadian
31%
588 votes
Yes, and I am an American
17%
320 votes
Yes, and I am a Canadian
4%
81 votes
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In the United States, there's much debate over whether gun-related legislation can diminish the likelihood of mass shootings. New research from Harvard Business School turns the question on its head: Do mass shootings lead to more gun-related legislation? The answer is yes, with an important twist. In states with Republican-controlled legislatures, mass shootings lead to a significant increase in the number of laws that loosen gun restrictions. That's one of several key findings in the study "The Impact of Mass Shootings on Gun Policy," co-authored by Michael Luca, Deepak Malhotra, and Christopher Poliquin. This year, for example, Missouri Republicans allowed people to carry guns without obtaining a permit. Georgia Republicans allowed permit-holders to carry on college campuses. Ohio Republicans allowed gun licence holders to carry their guns at daycares that don't put up No Guns signs and to store their guns in their cars on school property. Before the Las Vegas shooting, House Republicans had been pushing a bill to make it easier to buy gun silencers. They have now delayed that effort a second time. The first delay came after a shooter attacked party congressmen on a baseball field in nearby Virginia — which, tellingly, prompted some to talk about loosening gun laws, for self-defence. That debate has been argued here on Tellwut many times -- the need for a gun for self-defense, dividing the people on here into two camps: those that believe they have a right to carry a gun or have a gun at home or in their car for self-defense and those who believe that carrying a gun for any reason (other than hunting, military, police, etc) can only end badly. Which camp do you find yourself in?
In the United States, there's much debate over whether gun-related legislation can diminish the likelihood of mass shootings. New research from Harvard Business School turns the question on its head: Do mass shootings lead to more gun-related legislation? The answer is yes, with an important twist. In states with Republican-controlled legislatures, mass shootings lead to a significant increase in the number of laws that loosen gun restrictions. That's one of several key findings in the study
It is my right to carry or own a gun for self-defense
32%
614 votes
Having a gun except for hunting or police/military is not necessary
41%
795 votes
Undecided
24%
453 votes
Other (please specify)
3%
55 votes
Other Answers Percentage Votes
0.57% 11
N/A 0.21% 4
NA 0.21% 4
no guns 0.10% 2
No guns for anybody, except police/military and no hunting anywhere 0.05% 1
only police need them 0.05% 1
The 2nd Amendment is the 2nd in the Bill of Rights because our Founding Fathers considered it such a critical right to place it above all other rights 0.05% 1
You may own a gun after you've successfully completed a psychiatric evaluation. 0.05% 1
Don't need guns for hunting -- not a necessity and not even a good idea. 0.05% 1
totally anti-gun 0.05% 1
I have other means to defend myself. 0.05% 1
totally disagree with guns being owned by civilians 0.05% 1
I'm not against people in general having guns, but no one needs an automatic or a semi-automatic weapon. We need more safeguards and better background checks and if you're on the no fly list, then no guns. 0.05% 1
I should be allowed to shoot an intruder in my home but not carry a gun in the street. 0.05% 1
it's a legal right to own a gun but no need to own assault weapons 0.05% 1
i'm a canadian 0.05% 1
last thing i need is a gun 0.05% 1
there is a middle ground you know 0.05% 1
If there are no guns, don't need one for self defense 0.05% 1
It is a right guareented to me by the second amendment. 0.05% 1
the constitution declares the right to own arms to protect us from oppresive grovernment 0.05% 1
No guns are necessary 0.05% 1
i think auto shot gum should be ban 0.05% 1
I prefer a stun gun 0.05% 1
tldr 0.05% 1
nevewr one 0.05% 1
no hunting either protection only 0.05% 1
Ban guns altogether 0.05% 1
Canadian 0.05% 1
own no gun 0.05% 1
No guns at all for any reason 0.05% 1
I am Canadian 0.05% 1
People do have the right to carry guns but there should be a licensing requirement like the is for driving a car. If you can't pass the test you can't get a gun. 0.05% 1
for personal, family homeand property defense only 0.05% 1
Regular guns are fine but assault weapons NO 0.05% 1
I'm Canadian 0.05% 1
no one should have a gun 0.05% 1
The camp of no man on this earth 0.05% 1
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Criminals, gang members, terrorists -- they will get their guns illegally no matter what. There are many ways to get a gun without going through the legalities. We are talking about guns obtained legally, if somewhat more relaxed in some areas than others. We are talking about states where it easier to get a gun than it is to get an abortion or even birth control. We are talking about the ridiculous number of accidental shooting deaths of young children who just happen to find a loaded gun in their parents' closet or behind the bed (and really isn't even ONE accidental death of a child enough). We are talking about someone who gets road rage, and uses their loaded gun to make a point. Here are some of the statistics on guns in America. Which of these do you already know?
Criminals, gang members, terrorists -- they will get their guns illegally no matter what. There are many ways to get a gun without going through the legalities. We are talking about guns obtained legally, if somewhat more relaxed in some areas than others. We are talking about states where it easier to get a gun than it is to get an abortion or even birth control. We are talking about the ridiculous number of accidental shooting deaths of young children who just happen to find a loaded gun in their parents' closet or behind the bed (and really isn't even ONE accidental death of a child enough). We are talking about someone who gets road rage, and uses their loaded gun to make a point. Here are some of the statistics on guns in America. Which of these do you already know?
On average, there is more than one mass shooting (more than 4 victims) for each day in America
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280 votes
States with tighter gun control laws have fewer gun-related deaths
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339 votes
There have been more than 1,500 mass shootings since Sandy Hook
11%
210 votes
America has 4.4 percent of the world's population, but almost half of the civilian-owned guns around the world
16%
300 votes
America has six times as many firearm homicides as Canada, and nearly 16 times as many as Germany
13%
254 votes
States with more guns have more gun deaths
17%
320 votes
Most gun deaths are suicides
11%
219 votes
The states with the most guns report the most suicides
9%
163 votes
Guns allow people to kill themselves much more easily
18%
352 votes
Programs that limit access to guns have decreased suicides
7%
136 votes
All of them
13%
255 votes
None of them
42%
813 votes
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The statistics for gun shootings involving children is even more staggering -- how many of these did you know?
The statistics for gun shootings involving children is even more staggering -- how many of these did you know?
Gun accidents kill at least one child every other day
12%
236 votes
Deaths and injuries spike for children under 5, with 3-year-olds the most common shooters and victims among young children.
8%
146 votes
Nearly 90 3-year-olds were killed or injured in the shootings, the vast majority of which were self-inflicted.
6%
109 votes
Accidental shootings spike again for ages 15-17, when victims are most often fatally shot by other children but typically survive self-inflicted gunshots. They most often happen at the children's homes, with handguns legally owned by adults for self-protection. They are more likely to occur on weekends or around holidays such as Christmas.
10%
199 votes
States in the Deep South, including Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee and Georgia, are among those with the highest per capita rates of accidental shootings involving minors.
10%
185 votes
40% of accidental child shooting deaths take place in the very room the gun is "safely" stored
11%
215 votes
All of them
14%
270 votes
None of them
58%
1109 votes
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The NRA argues that more education and training should be the solution, not more laws and restrictions. The NRA takes credit for improving safety through its Eddie Eagle Gun Safe program, which warns children not to touch any firearms they come across and to tell adults. However, critics dispute the effectiveness of that message, pointing to academic research that shows curious children will pick up loose guns, even when told otherwise. The sad truth is that many guns bought solely for "protection" end up taking the life of the very ones they were bought to protect. And, in the case of a gun death, even one child is one too many. Have you personally known a child who has one of these victims?
The NRA argues that more education and training should be the solution, not more laws and restrictions. The NRA takes credit for improving safety through its Eddie Eagle Gun Safe program, which warns children not to touch any firearms they come across and to tell adults. However, critics dispute the effectiveness of that message, pointing to academic research that shows curious children will pick up loose guns, even when told otherwise. The sad truth is that many guns bought solely for
No
80%
1534 votes
Yes, I know of at least one
12%
223 votes
I suspect, but don't know for sure
8%
160 votes
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